tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post673205117143501466..comments2022-03-02T01:50:26.752-08:00Comments on ranajit-Jesus Christ Comes From Asia Minor: Jesus Christ Was Amyntas of GalatiaMejdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17740726363934361475noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-31036464435378126202021-02-08T04:44:42.056-08:002021-02-08T04:44:42.056-08:00Ai means ay in Turkish. Moon.Ai khanoum village wa...Ai means ay in Turkish. Moon.Ai khanoum village was in Afghanistan.I do not quite undestand why Moon and star like Turkish flag found there. I went to Pessinus where temple of Kybele was found near Eskişehir, western part of Turkey. I also saw Afghanistan exhibition in British Museum.Tülinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07748082994577274871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-12700757951522113262013-10-22T07:23:26.697-07:002013-10-22T07:23:26.697-07:00After a gap of two years what a post!After a gap of two years what a post!Mejdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740726363934361475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-86874256655335378172013-10-14T20:14:38.271-07:002013-10-14T20:14:38.271-07:00"The lack of archaeological trace of Christ a..."The lack of archaeological trace of Christ and his men from Palestine is a stern reminder that they belong to a different era and land. Paul's letters pertain to the earliest Christians who were from Galatia, Rome and other places but not Galilee."<br /><br />And there it is. An absurdly illogical affirmation to kick off yet another gnostic rampage at fiction, into trying to dirty and defile historical truth and coopt the figure of Jesus to endorse crackpot cultism. And when the subject is gnosticism, it's actually serpent worship, or satanism, that's really at stake.<br />So, making up facts, obscuring known facts (yes there were registers of Jesus in Roman Judea), recreating Jesus to be a crackpot idol worshiper, etc. etc.<br />Jesus!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165284845721377296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-34793301873379259552011-07-01T19:35:38.585-07:002011-07-01T19:35:38.585-07:00While looking for evidence of early Christianity i...While looking for evidence of early Christianity in Rome or Asia-Minor, it has to be kept in mind that early 1st or 2nd century Christianity must have looked very different from the mature 4th century version, and probably had Pagan associations. The Montanists were Christians as were some Attis worshipers who justifiably saw Amyntas or Amen as a personification of Attis. From Amyntas' title Nikator, Sol Invictus may also be seen as a symbol of Jesus Christ.Mejdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740726363934361475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-48721818378667441412011-06-23T21:39:29.991-07:002011-06-23T21:39:29.991-07:00Dear John,
>Why should the Jesus Christ of the...Dear John,<br /><br />>Why should the Jesus Christ of the New Testament be based on an historical person? Some divine men are, though many others are abstract deities.<<br /><br />If you tamper with history, you would always find it easier to brand Jesus as an abstract deity but I do not think you seriously doubt that Jesus was a historical person. <br /><br />>Why should Greco-Romans (or Hellenes in general), who were in conflict with both Jews and Judaism in this period make a Jew their divine hero? <<br /><br />Very interesting! The Hellenes were in conflict only with Judaism of the Palestinian variety but I find it very difficult to define Judaism in a wider context. I have written an article claiming that all the world religions seperated from a united core from Indo-Iran and that Gotama's father, who is given the appellative 'Yauda' in the Persepolis inscriptions, was some kind of a Jew. As the Mauryas and the Buddhists are said to have been allied this indicates that even Asoka/Diodotus-I was also some kind of a Jew. Jesus-Amyntas was distantly related to Seleucus/Asoka and was a Hellenized Jew who can be called even a Mahayana Buddhist. John my Buddhists are half-Greco-Macedonians.<br /><br />>You make frequent reference to a "Jesus Amyntas" as if that were the name of Amyntas of Galatia: is it?< It is not, but from the gospels you can justify the name Jesus Amen.<br /><br />>>In Greco-India, there is a Amyntas Nikator<br />"Bopearachchi places Amyntas c. 95-90 BCE, whereas Senior places him c. 80-65 BCE."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyntas_Nikator<br />Are you suggesting that this is Amyntas of Galatia?< <br />Yes, this is one of my principal arguments. If you are aware of R.C. Senior's recent somersaults regarding the dating of Gondophares, you would realize how flimsy the dating 80-65 B.C. is. At some stage Bopearachchi has to come to terms with Jones' blunders and Diodotus-I/Asoka.<br /><br />You may be right about the face of Amyntas on coins but this is what the writer in the website Galloturca.com. There are many types of faces on different coins. <br /><br />>A small point: I think the gold coins of Amyntas of Galatia are regarded by experts as fake.<<br />Wroth, who is no mean authority, says that at least two in the British Museum are not fakes.<br /><br />>You write, "Christianity took hold in Rome long before Constantine." If so, then there is a vacuum of reliable, contemporaneous evidence for this, so on what do you base your claim?<<br /><br />Well I have written on Virgil and Ovid which supports this. Just look at Julia Domna and many others they were the early Christians. I can almost write a book on Christianity in Rome before Constantine.<br /><br />Best wishes,<br /><br />Dr. Ranajit PalMejdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740726363934361475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-65492204985058862232011-06-23T19:55:54.459-07:002011-06-23T19:55:54.459-07:00Mr. Terrence Phelps, who highlighted Dr. A.A. Fuhr...Mr. Terrence Phelps, who highlighted Dr. A.A. Fuhrer's frauds regarding the "discovery of Lumbini", has made the following comments about my idea that Amyntas of Galatia was Jesus; <br /><br />"You're missing out on James the Just, brother of Jesus, leader of the first church in Jerusalem (following the death of Jesus) and opponent of Paul. Check him out: he's hot stuff these days. Robert Eisenman (the maverick who broke the Catholic monopoly on the Dead Sea Scrolls, and rescheduled their dating) has some plausible theories that James was the 'Teacher of Righteousness' of the Scrolls, whilst Paul was 'The Liar'. interestingly, however, the earliest known Gnostics, the Mandaeans (who are still around) believe that Jesus was 'The Liar' and that John the Baptist was the Teacher (a notion which appears to have secretly found support among the Templars, the precursors of Freemasonry). But I have little doubt that Palestine was the place for Jesus: the destruction of the Temple and Josephus surely prove that."Mejdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740726363934361475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-56057643486283922142011-06-23T19:47:37.799-07:002011-06-23T19:47:37.799-07:00Dear John,
Thanks ! We think along similar lines....Dear John,<br /><br />Thanks ! We think along similar lines. Today I am a bit worked up with the launch of the World Dignity University at Oslo University but shall come back to your interesting points later. Please elaborate on what you wrote about Mani and Jesus Chrest. You wrote 'this takes you to the region of Amyntas of Galatia'. Does it really?<br /> Best wishes,<br /><br />Dr. Ranajit PalMejdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17740726363934361475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8853131439591785561.post-70443391621685731662011-06-22T11:17:38.010-07:002011-06-22T11:17:38.010-07:00Dr Pal:
This is an intriguing hypothesis, contain...Dr Pal:<br /><br />This is an intriguing hypothesis, containing potential for development and begging numerous questions.<br /><br />Why should the Jesus Christ of the New Testament be based on an historical person? Some divine men are, though many others are abstract deities.<br /><br />Why should Greco-Romans (or Hellenes in general), who were in conflict with both Jews and Judaism in this period make a Jew their divine hero?<br /><br />You make frequent reference to a "Jesus Amyntas" as if that were the name of Amyntas of Galatia: is it?<br /><br />In Greco-India, there is a Amyntas Nikator<br />"Bopearachchi places Amyntas c. 95-90 BCE, whereas Senior places him c. 80-65 BCE."<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyntas_Nikator<br />Are you suggesting that this is Amyntas of Galatia?<br /><br />A small point: I think the gold coins of Amyntas of Galatia are regarded by experts as fake.<br /><br />You write: "Amyntas...his face on...his coins from India and Galatia bears a striking similarity to the face of Jesus known from later pictures." I suppose you mean the ones with the beard, which is a common-enough trait to make your observation meaningless. However, as early portraits of Jesus also showed him as a beautiful young man, in the likeness of Helios (and Alexander), your point is also wrong.<br /><br />You write: "Christianity took hold in Rome long before Constantine." If so, then there is a vacuum of reliable, contemporaneous evidence for this, so on what do you base your claim? I think you would do better to reference Mani and his Jesus Chrest, for this takes you to the region of Amyntas of Galatia.<br /><br />Best regards,<br />JohnAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12905061957777318692noreply@blogger.com